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Persoonlijk vind ik de spin best mooi, mooi genoeg om een O&G spider leger te maken, hoop maar dat julle geen last hebebn van arachnafobie.

die arachnarok (SP?) spin is écht wel cool, en ziet er behoorlijk groot uit :O

wat me wel opvalt, is dat de prijs van die savage orcs hoog is, 18 pond voor 10 modellen, eerst kreeg je daar een unit van 20 voor :S

Welkom bij GW.....

niet echt rumours he maar ja:p

@sjefke; is nog vrij redelijk, greatswords zijn 32 euries pfff

General Rules

Animosity: Each Unit with the Animosity special rule with at least 5 moldels wit hthat rule rolls 1d6 at beginning of their players turn. 2+ nothing happens, and the unit may act normally.

You do not toll for animosity as long as you man a building.

On a roll of 1, roll a D6 again, and consult the following chart to see what happens.

1: The unit deals D6 S3 autohits to the nearest friendly unit with: at least 5 models that have the animosity rule, within 12 inches. The 'hit' unit afterwards deals D6 S3 hits to the quarreling unit. If there's no valid 'target', treat this result as a 2-5
Hordes caus 2D6 hits.
This never causes panic.
Both units may not perform any other action in this turn. The 'victim' does not have to roll for animosity this turn - they are to busy fighting back.

2-5: The unit has to declare an attack at the nearest valid enemy unit. If there is no target, the greenskins start to attack each other. Nothing happens, but the unit may not move, attack, shoot or cast spells for the following turn.

6. "Who's da best? Yes, dat's us. Let's get 'em!" The unit is aligned towards the nearest enemy unit and performs a regular move action towards that unit (it may not march, and stops 1 inch before enemy units. ). Afterwards, the unit may act normal. If there is no visible opponent the unit moves straight forward.
EG: A unit of Goblin Wolf Riders rolls a 1, followed by a 6, for animosity. You measure the distance to all enemy units, and find that a unit of Highelf Reavers, standing 20" away in their flank, is the nearest unit. The goblins are now turned on spot (as they would be if they were to persue an enemy) and are moved 9 inches towards the reavers afterwards. They may declare a charge, move, march or fire their weapons at will.


Choppas.
A model with a Choppa increases it's strength characteristics by 1 for each first round of close combat. This does not apply to mounts of any kind. It applys to magical weapons aswell.

Fear Elves:
Any Elven Unit causes fear for a unit with this special rule.

Size matters:
Orks never have to pass a panic test caused by a unit that is only composed from goblins or creatures ridden by goblins (that goes for the arachnarok spider aswell)

Big'unz
You may have one unit total per army.

Units

Ork Warbosses (any kind)
Profile the same. Orc Warbosses have light armour, black orc warbosses heavy armour as standard loadout.

Waaagh! Special rule.
Once per game, a Orc Warboss who is the army general of any kind (Savage or Black or Vanilla) may declare a Waaagh, after he declared a valid charge. For the rest of the turn all units of Boar Boys (any kind) or Orcs (any kind) that have at least 5 models gain +1 on their combat resolution. The Generals unit gains +D3 instead. (Yes, that rule is lame.)

Surpress Animosity (Black Orc Characters) If a unit fails their animosity check, the Boss deals D6 S5 hits, that may not be allocated to the boss and never cause panic.


Shaman - no change.

I don't know if it was the case earlier, but great orc shaman may mound a wyvern now.

Orcs:

Arrar Boys Boss gains +1 BS instead of +1 A/WS

Boar Boys:
No changes in stats. Come with a hand weapon and light armour at moderate point costs. Big un upgrade and weapons upgrades are a little cheaper. Overall I personally still don't deem them worthy...

Orc Chariot
No changes. Keeps spears and the option on 3rd crew member.

Black Orcs
Points dropped (or point drop), gained ItP

Savage ORcs
Savage orcs gain the impact-spear. It'S a unit upgrade that can be taken once. The unit deals D3 S5 impact hits (which deal D3 wounds at large creatures) as long as it has at least 1 rank of 5 models behind the first.. You have to nominate 1 model that causes the hits at the beginning of close combat.

Savage Boar Boys
Savage Boar Boys gain +1 attack from fighting with 2 handweapons, but they suffer casulties for dangerous terrain on a roll of 1-2.

Goblin Bosses (any kind) - no changes. They may NOT declare a Waaagh.

Goblin Shaman
Night Goblin Shaman now have magic shrooms (don't know what they are called) as a default loadout. they have to take one at east attempt to cast a spell. They add D6 on their casting attempt.
This is not counted a power dice and therefor may not trigger irresistable force. If the goblin rolls a 1 for the shroom he loses a wound on a roll of 4+ and the cast is automatically considered a miscast (meaning it fails) as long as he doesn't roll irresistable force with the power dice.

Goblins
Upgrade costs at the same price as skaven clanrats.
Nigh Goblins may get to pic either bows or spears for free instead.
Sneaky Gitz (those new chars) are treated as characters and may not leave the unit. They are hidden just as skaven/DE assassins, nut have to be revealed at 1st round of cc. they may be targetted individually.
Thay gain killing blow at first round of combat.
They have a S of 3, 2 A, WS 2.

Goblin Wolfriders
remain light cavallery with 4+ AS.

Goblin Chariots
the same, same options.

Rock Lobba - the same

Spear Chukka:
If you roll a 1 to hit you roll on the misfire chart of Stonethrowers from the rulebook.

Doom Divers
Fires like a Stonethrower, but still deals D6 S5 hits with no AS allowed.
You may hit several units with the doom diver theoratically, as you use his base (the winged guy on the skimemr base) to determine who's hit.

Spider-Riders
May move across obstacles and Buildings without penaltys, but not end their movement atop of them (or in them)
They can fight in buildings and keep all benefits from being mounted. Mount and rider count as 1 model.

Arachnarok Spider
Where to start?
ItP, causes Terror, Large Target, Stubborn, Fast Movement, Wallclimber (may move over buildings like Spider Riders), Poisoned attacks (spider only)

All attacs in CC are fought against the Spider. You cannot attack the goblin crew in any way. If it's mounted by a great shaman the shaman is hit by all ranged attacks on a roll of 5+

It has a Crew of 8 goblins armed with bows and spears.

Poisoned blow: befor rolling to hit with the spider you have to pick one of it'S attacks and roll that seperate. This attack deals multiple wounds (D6)

Netlobber is a Stone thrower with S 1(3), units hit suffer from always strikes last until the End of the spiders NEXT turn (3 rounds of cc totally). It may fire and move, but not march. Misfire means it just doesn't fire at all.

Shrine: +2 to channel for all friendly mages within 12", shaman on top gains Master of Lores

Fanatics: The same as before, only that they are counted as being in light cover.

Squigs: No characters may join squig herds.

Squig Rider
Cavallery, skirmishers. If you roll a triple 6 for movement, each squig causes impact hit (1)
Giant Cave Squig: A character mounted on a giant cave squig may join squig riders. Ig he does the unit may reroll their movement roll.

Squig fanatics:
S6, T4, W3.
They move 3D6 inches until they come in contact wit a unit. From there on they act like fanatics. Counting to be in light cover.

Work like fanatics, only that they deal 2D6 S6 armourpiercing attacks.


Trolls: Same as before
Stone Trolls: 5+ scaly save, MR (2)

River Trolls: as befor.

Snotlings: Special Coice.
Boom shroom: Boom shrooms are a thrown wapon that hits automatically and ignores armour saves.

snotling chariot
several upgrades, like dealing stronger impact hits, first impact hits ignore armour saves, more movement, etc.

Gorbad Ironclaw

His wapon grant him ASF, ignores Armour saves and causes multiple wounds (d3)
Works as General and BSB within 18 inches all the time
you may field as many biguns as you want with gorbad
as long as he lives all units within 18 inches from him get a bonus of his current wounds on their rolls on the animosity chart.

Azhag
Lvl 3 Wizard using lore of death
all orcs within 18 inches of azhag have to reroll failed animosity checks

Wurzhag
Lvl 4 wizard
Furry Squig: may store up to 1 power or dispel dice per (regarding who's turn it is) to be used in the next magic phase. (either as a power or dispel dice)
Has MR (3) and may reroll miscast rolls.
5+ wardsave through his warpaint
His mask contains the spell "Destructive Glare", see magic section later on.

Wurrzagh's Fury: Curse spell, 8+. all enemy casters within 12 " have to roll 1 d6. They are removed from play with no saves allowed on a roll of 6, including their mounts. For each killd wizard Wurrzhag gains 1 die in his furry squig, and the capacity for stored dice is increased by 1.

Grom
no change, but he may declare a Waaagh which affects all Goblin infantry or cavallery in adition to all orc units.

Skarsnik
Skarsniks weapon contains a bound spell, level 5: Deals D3 S6 hits with no armour saves allowed. Increased to D6 hits if he'S within 12 " to a night goblin horde.

At the beginning of the game roll a D6 for each emeny unit. On a roll of 6 they are delayed and arrive in their owners 1st turn via reinforcements.

Nightgoblin Units that rallied after chosing 'flee' may move after regrouping, as if they were light cavallery.

Snagla Magotspitta
Spider Cavallery character. (he's a hero choice, not an upgrade.)
he has poisoned attacks and dals multiple wounds (D3) - he has a one time thrown weapon with the same rule.
He has to join a unit of spider cavallery. They get hatred (Imperium).

Gitilla the Hunta
Wolfrider Character
He and his unit of wolf riderz gain +1 BS and may reroll flee and persuit rolls.
HE has a Sultiple shots (3) Bow

Grimgore Ironhide
Looses 2 Attacks and drops in points. Same weapon, same armour.
He has a choppa (and therefor S8 in first round of combat...)
He may declare a Waaagh!
He has to join a unit of Black Orcs, and no other character may join that unit.
The unit gains hatred (everyone, every last of 'em) and increases it's weapon skill by 1 (yes, that's for free)


Magic
I'm sorry, I don't know casting values.

The small Waaagh!
Sneaky thievery: After a small waaagh spell is succesfully cast (and not dispelled), roll a D6. You gain 1 powerdice on a roll of 5+, while your oponnent loses a dispel dice. if he has no more dispel dice, this has no effect.

Base spell: Naughty Stabbing
targetted unit within 12 inches gains armour piercing attacks. In adition they may reroll hits and wounds when they attack an enemy in the flank or rear.

1st spell: Destructive Glare
magic missile, 24". Deals 2D6 S3 hits, or if boosted, 3D6 S3 hits.

2nd spell: Gift of the Spider God
targetted friendly unit gets poisoned attacks, or the effect of exsisting poison is increased to 5+.

3rd spell: Itching
Targetted enemy unit reduces it's Movement and Initiative characteristics by D6 (minimum of 1). Units with the random movement rule reduce the dice rolled to determine their movement by D3 (and still suffer D6 penalty on their I score)

4: Gork will fix it:
Targeted enemy unit has to reroll all To hit, to wound and armour saves of 6.

5: Nightshroud.
casters unit is treated as being in light cover. All enemy units getting in b2b ontact with the affected unit have to take a test for dangerous terrain. May be expanded to all friendly units within 12".

6: Bad Moon's Curse
RiP, Magic Whirl. 3" template, moved 4D6 in a straight line away from the caster in a direction of his chosing. All models touched by the template have to pass a test on the following characteristic, or louse one wound with no AS allowed (roll a D6 to determine the characteristic):
1-2: Initiative
3-4: toughness
5-6: strength.
May be boosted to 5" template and characteristic of the wizard's chosing.


Big Waagh!
As long as there are more Orc units in CC than there are fleeing Orc units the strength characteristic of all spells from the big Waaagh is increased by 1.

Base Spell: Mork (or Gork)'s gaze: Draw a 4D6" line away from the caster. Each model touched suffers a S4 hit. May be boosted to 6D6

1st spell: Brainbursta: Pick one enemy model within LoS and 18". Targetted model gains 1 S5 hit. May boost range.

2nd spell: Gorks Fists: Caster gains +3A, +3 S and 6+ ward save. RiP.

3rd spell: Gorks hand:
Pick one model from the frst rank of targetted friendly unit. Place it with alignement of your chosing within 3D6 inches of former location, and arrange the unit in same formation around it. May be boosted to 5D6.

4th spell: Headbutt
Targeted enemy caster within 4D6 inches suffers a S4 multiple wounds (D3) hit withou AS. Range may be boosted to 6D6.

5th spell: Let's get going:
Affacts all friendly orc units within "d& inches. They may reroll to hit rolls in Close combat.

6th spell: Gorks Feet.
Place the Gork's Feet template (yes, it's back.) within 36 inches of the shaman, and scatter it D6 inches. all touched models suffer a S6 hit that causes multiple wounds (D3)

afterwards, roll a D6.
1: Gork Slippes (or was shoved by Mork) and stomps upon one of your own units
2-3: Gork Wanders off (spell ends)
4+: stomp again (either a different unit, or the same one.)

Battleaxe of the Last Waaagh! - (Weapon)
+d6 to Strength and Attacks, half that bonus as penalty to weapon skill

Basha's Axe of Stunty Bashin' - (Weapon)
+1 Strength and Attack, double that bonus plus fear vs Dwarves

Armour of Gork - (Armour)
+d3 Toughness (roll first time you are hit in the turn and that bonus stays for the entire turn), also gives Impact Hits (d6)

Lucky Shrunken Head - (Arcane Item)
Ability I cannot remember, also increases Savage Orc Warpaint ward save from 6+ to 5+, increases Wurrzag's to 4+. Savage Orc shaman or great shaman only.

Morks Spirit Totem - (Banner)
Unit gains Magic Resistance d6 (rolled first time the unit is hit by a spell, lasts the whole turn). Also no enemy magic items in base contact with bearer will work.

Spider Banner - (Banner)
Goblin BSB only (specifically says night goblins cannot take it). Unit gains Poisoned Attacks.

Bad Moon Banner - (Banner)
Night Goblin BSB only. Unit gains stubborn and soft cover. Models that charge into base contact with unit must make dangerous terrain test.

Skull Wand of Kaloth - (Enchanted Item)
At beginning of combat phase pick a model in base to base with user, Ld test or die no saves of any kind allowed. User also causes terror.

Klopt bijna allemaal. Is een aardig boek geworden waar toch wel wat charme is uitgehaald door het gebrek aan magic items (kosten allemaal minimaal 20 punten).

An ancient race that has lain dormant for thousands of years, the Tomb Kings now awaken from within their ancient burial pyramids. Cheated from the eternal life that they were promised, the Tomb Kings are instead doomed to an eternal undeath - awakened they thirst for vengeance against those who would disturb their slumber.

At the command of these undying lords march legions of implacable Skeleton Warriors, hosts of chariots crewed by long-dead crewmen and towering statues carved from unyielding stone.

The armies of the Tomb Kings are vast, unstoppable hordes that know neither fear nor remorse - and they shall not rest until all who stand against them are laid low.

This May Warhammer: Tomb Kings is released, containing everything you need to use the legions of Nehekhara in your games of Warhammer.

Alongside the new book we'll also be releases a slew of amazing new miniatures for Tomb Kings players to collect and add to their armies. Details are being kept firmly under wraps for now, but more details will be available over the coming months. To make sure you're the first to see the new models and read the latest news keep your eyes fixed to the pages of White Dwarf, the Games Workshop newsletter and the What's New Today blog.

In the meantime, if you're a Tomb Kings player (or thinking about becoming one) it's time to start building up your Undead hordes in preparation for the new arrivals. So, out with the large drybrush (and the pot of Bleached Bone) and onwards to glory!

Incoming Grey Knights! Nu op advance order:

variant 1 van de 3 ofzo



3 soorten squads:





termies, 2 volgens mij





en nog n special chac

Erg mooi... misschien toch stiekem een klein beetje 40k...

Tombkings eerste plaatjes:

De sphinksen, de tombgaurd met Halberd tussen de skellies, de slangenrijders, en nog veel meer.





Warsphinx + Prins


Vind ze vet, beetje te rommelig eerlijk gezegd en erg ver naar voren gebogen.



De slangenrijders, ik had er mijn twijfels over maar toch erg vet, ook erg fijne regels.


Sepulchral Stalker
Variant van de slangen.

regels:

and 2 cool things that i was missing

Skeleton Archers never suffer any modifiers To Hit when shooting.

Skeleton Horsemen have the Vanguard special rule
and Skeleton Horse Archers have the Scouts special rule.
so "heavy" cavarly with light cavalry and so vanguard.....and archers with scout.....maybe they could be useful now

Tomb Guard zijn Special

also cool news for chariots
Units of Skeleton Chariots inflict D6 Impact Hits when they charge into combat, and increase the Strength for each rank in the unit.
wow....so i think that with 6 light chariots you can inflict 3d6 impact hits at S5......i think that chariots in second rank can't inflict impact hits

Ik ben eerlijk gezegd positief verrast. Hoe het gepaint is spreekt me ook enorm aan.
Regels zijn ook erg vet tot nu toe.

Wow, die warsphinx ziet er stevig uit, ik gokte al dat de trend die we zagen met skaven en O&G naar de andere legers zou gaan, elk ras gaat nu een grote monster kit krijgen.

Avian gaf dit inderdaad al aan op warseer. Verder hadden Tk de tombgiant al.

Cover Art


Verder een klein beetje over de magic en de kosten van de modellen. Zien er ERG goedkoop uit.

The attribute of the lore it's regain d3+2 wound on the unit targetted by the spell.

One spell : 8+ each TK units on 12" of the Priest can made a movment (not a charge)
Boosted it's on 24" and enter on 16+

archer cost 6 pt

warrior 4

Horseman 17

archer Horseman 14

Chariot eguals , but with Armout on 3+ or 4+

ik was net ook al aan het kijken op warseer

laat ik het zo zeggen, ik vind alleen de 'skeleton' modellen leuk..

sphinx kan ook nog wel, maar ik vind het zo overdreven

Ja de tijd van subtiele quasi historische legers met een paar aparte dingen is omver gegooid naar meer over de top modellen.
Desondanks, vind ik het toch wel erg vet. De Tombkings hebben echt een update nodig (pas na 10 jaar een nieuw armybook).

ja daarom wacht ik ook op een wave 2: skellie update

o en de prijzen falen hard

40 euro voor sphinx is acceptabel
43 euro voor enge slangen niet
32,50 voor 10 gold guard ook niet

helaas hopelijk zijn de regels wel fatsoenlijk

de prijzen vallen wel mee in mijn ogen.

alleen sommige sculpts zijn wat minder. Nieuwe skellies zijn hard nodig maar dit zal dan wel weer een hele tijd duren, eerst nog nieuwe O&G wave.

Idem, en dan maar afvragen waarom Maelstorm games zo populair is. Voor mensen die met deze hobby moeten beginnen is dit geen leuke motivatie.

Die slangen en de Tombguard zijn in mijn ogen gewoon te duur. Je hebt zowiezo al 2/3 dozen nodig voor een normale unit tombguard, das bijna 100 euro.... Daar heb 2 dikke units Knights voor die pointwise meer kosten waarschijnlijk.

Als ik het zo zie ga ik voordat Bretonnian aan de beurt zijn nog maar een paar dozen Men-at-Arms halen voordat deze ook een stuk duurder worden.

niet zo klagen dat alles zoveel kost, het valt allemaal wel mee. Ik vind de snelle stijging van de prijzen wel irritant. Maar opzicht koop je een heel mooi product waar je, als het goed is, heel lang mee speelt. Oftewel 4+ jaar spelen voor 300 euro = max 75 euro per jaar, dat valt toch reuze mee.

En zoveel is 300 euro niet echt. Natuurlijk als je nog jong bent, maar eerlijk gezegd is dit spel ook niet voor deze mensen weggelegd. En toch voor wat oudere mensen zeg 20+ welke ook meer geld verdienen en dus ook deze prijzen kunnen betalen.

Maar toch vind ik de 10 man dozen tov de oude 16-20 man doezen vrij prijzig. Maar ja elite units..

Ik zeg nergens dat alles te duur is maar wel dat de verhoudingen een beetje scheef zijn voor alles. En dat deze hobby alleen voor oudere mensen is met veel geld is niet waar, ik meen dat jij ook rond je 12de bent begonnen hiermee, idem voor mezelf. Wat ze nu doen is het product heel duur maken voor een doelgroep die het geld er bijna niet voor heeft om te besteden. De oude veteranen hebben over het algemeen hun legers binnen en hoeven niet veel meer te besteden.

Natuurlijk als je het in verhouding gaat zien met andere hobbies als auto's en mijn Reenactment dan is het redelijk te doen (het blijft plastic minaturen waar ze een flinke marge winst op hebben). Ik ben blij dat ik m'n Bretonnian bijeen heb voordat ze de nieuwe prijzen ook op hen los laten.
De winkels klagen nu dat ze steeds minder verkopen, de jeugd kan het moeilijker betalen, ben blij dat we met deze club bij iemand thuis zitten en dat we de optie hebben om het met korting te bestellen.

redeemer schreef:niet zo klagen dat alles zoveel kost, het valt allemaal wel mee. Ik vind de snelle stijging van de prijzen wel irritant. Maar opzicht koop je een heel mooi product waar je, als het goed is, heel lang mee speelt. Oftewel 4+ jaar spelen voor 300 euro = max 75 euro per jaar, dat valt toch reuze mee.

En zoveel is 300 euro niet echt. Natuurlijk als je nog jong bent, maar eerlijk gezegd is dit spel ook niet voor deze mensen weggelegd. En toch voor wat oudere mensen zeg 20+ welke ook meer geld verdienen en dus ook deze prijzen kunnen betalen.

Maar toch vind ik de 10 man dozen tov de oude 16-20 man doezen vrij prijzig. Maar ja elite units..

Bullshit.... enough said

30 euro voor 20 modellen met genoeg wapen opties voor 3 soorten uitrusting en genoeg losse dingetjes voor te converten, bestaande uit 10+ sprues vergeleken met 32.50 voor 10 modellen met waarschijnlijk slechts 1/2 wapen opties geen bits en slechts 2/4 sprues?

Uit de GW newsletter.

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Prepare for battles ravaged with powerful magic and a host of fearsome monsters: Storm of Magic is the brand-new world-shattering Expansion for Warhammer. Launched in July 2011, Storm of Magic, along with a new range of Warhammer scenery and Wizards, will enable you to wage immense and spectacular battles. Head on over to the Astronomican on Games-Workshop.com for more information, as well as a sneak peek of what's to come...

duuuuus, warhammer met meer wizards?